So... M.D. Geist 2

[Krieg]

What do you, guys think about it?

[Vendaval Este]

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Ta-da!

[Krieg]

Funny thing. I kinda liked the english dub. Krauser is a great exalted hero and Geist has pretty cool voice.
The animation was awful a lot of time, but I still like the movie and watch it at about once a month.

One thing that I like is how senseless it all is and the contrast between the two heroes. Krauser is a great warriors and defender of his people, but still has human weaknesses. And Geist is a killing machine, but ironically, he's weaker than Krauser.
I'm don't quite understand the ending - Geist ends up impaled, but the guy that is shown impaled in the end seems to be Krauser. Did Geist kill him during the explosion or did he fall or something?

Still, it's a pretty nice ending - basically everyone dies and nothing makes.

[loadrunner81]

I would have liked to have seen more of Geist in the film. How could the star of the film get so little screentime!?

[Krieg]

Well, there was other stuff that needed to be explained and this time he wasn't in the same team with those who would explain.

[Vendaval Este]

The first one made somewhat decent use of its short running time, in which events just happened as a means to bridge together action scenes. Here, it doesn't work as well.

[Krieg]

Well, I was pretty satisfied with it anyway. Animation was pretty awful in the beginning but luckily it got better soon.
The movie has its own character - while M.D. Geist was a very cool action movie - mostly about action, The Death Force is much darker and more emotional. It's about the conflict between two noble characters and about consequences of Geist's actions from the previous movie.
It's pretty emotionally intense and very violent - much more violent than the first movie. While it doesn't have so many cool action scenes, it simply replaces action with drama and violence and it still carries the viewer from one intense scene to another.

And it has some awesome quotes .

[loadrunner81]

My pros:
-Much better animation
-Ohata-san's awesome mechanical designs
-Decent soundtrack

My cons:
-Not enough Geist
-The English dub is atrocious
-I understand that the purpose of the Death Force was to exterminate all human life on Jerra, but why would some of the machines literally EAT humans!? Seriously, what the fuck was the point of that!?
-Vaiya really serves no purpose other than being eye candy -- again -- and shacks up with a (more stable) superhuman psychopath/sociopath for "protection" -- again.
-The innocent little boy coming out of nowhere and getting killed in the crossfire by Krauser
-Krauser's unexplained bitter end and Geist's unexplained disappearance


I apologize if I sound like I'm bitching about M.D. Geist 2. To be honest with you, I do like the anime, but my intention was to point out the flaws and the problems I personally had with it.

[Vendaval Este]

Jan 2, 2011 22:04:48 GMT loadrunner81 said:

My pros:
-Much better animation

What animation?

[loadrunner81]

Jan 2, 2011 22:59:04 GMT Vendaval Este said:

Jan 2, 2011 22:04:48 GMT loadrunner81 said:

My pros:
-Much better animation

What animation?

LOL. Good joke.

[Krieg]

Jan 2, 2011 22:04:48 GMT loadrunner81 said:

-The English dub is atrocious

Hey, it had some good mements - namely Krauser's and Geist's voices.

Jan 2, 2011 22:04:48 GMT loadrunner81 said:

-Krauser's unexplained bitter end and Geist's unexplained disappearance

It looked to me like Geist was killed by Krauser and Krauser was killed by the explosion that destroyed the ship.

Jan 2, 2011 22:04:48 GMT loadrunner81 said:

-Vaiya really serves no purpose other than being eye candy -- again -- and shacks up with a (more stable) superhuman psychopath/sociopath for "protection" -- again.

Why do you think that Krauser was a psychopath? He seems to be emotionally unstable but doesn't seem to be a psychopath.

Jan 2, 2011 22:04:48 GMT loadrunner81 said:

-The innocent little boy coming out of nowhere and getting killed in the crossfire by Krauser

How is it a bad thing?

[Vendaval Este]

Krauser was an egomaniac and, as much as I hate to reference TV-Tropes, a well-intentioned extremist, meaning his methods were not entirely of sane mind.

Krauser also had an abysmal voice, Jason Beck was equally awful as well. I'm sorry, but they're both ear-grating, every voice in the English dub is. Jason Beck is alright in the first, here? Terrible save for his non-shouting lines.

And the little boy dying just feels like some of slighty out-of-place symbolism, really it's just to prove his incompetency as a leader, as he will never be able to shake off the violent mind buried in him as an MDS.

[Krieg]

Jan 3, 2011 20:29:03 GMT Vendaval Este said:

Krauser was an egomaniac and, as much as I hate to reference TV-Tropes, a well-intentioned extremist, meaning his methods were not entirely of sane mind.

Which doesn't make him a psychopath/sociopath or emotionally stable. Also, which of his methods weren't entirely of sane mind?

Jan 3, 2011 20:29:03 GMT Vendaval Este said:

And the little boy dying just feels like some of slighty out-of-place symbolism, really it's just to prove his incompetency as a leader, as he will never be able to shake off the violent mind buried in him as an MDS.

I think it shows the contrast between his perfectionist dreams and brutal, imperfect reality where he can't stop certain things from happening.

[loadrunner81]

To me, while Krauser was more mentally stable than Geist, I also saw him as part of the problem. Also, I think the little boy being accidentally killed by him was to symbolize innocent people getting killed in the crossfire in wars.

I think the message of this OVA was the celebration of villainy and destruction. Geist is clearly the series's antagonist as well as the protagonist, Krauser had good intentions but was ultimately no better than Geist, and the Death Force pretty much wasted more human lives than those that were saved by Krauser and his people.

[Krieg]

Why do you think that he wasn't better than Geist?

Also, Geist was pretty stable. He is completely focused on fighting and it didn't change. Krauser was much more emotional than him.