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Post by Vendaval Este on Jan 30, 2011 19:44:18 GMT
It has just occured to me that I am considering, at an uncertain point in the future, expanding Forgotten Junk and almost changing it completely. What I have in mind, is a site that is on the topic of both art house cinema and trash, with very little of the inbetween; two extremes, juxstaposed with no middleground (basically, little talk on mainstream releases). I am also considering bringing theory to the site, but mainly, I want a grander appreciation of cinema as art, with a section breaking down the aesthetics of a film through its promotional art and its cinematography, as well as weekly selections of screenshots. This includes animation as well, we can never forget that.
Thoughts on this?
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Post by Vendaval Este on Jan 30, 2011 22:40:05 GMT
I'm sorry but I really don't know how that affects me, I can't dumb down this site for one person and I don't ask you to contribute to it. As for not knowing what we're talking about: research is the key, and it doesn't take much. I don't know why you make such a big deal out of this, if you've been along just to be nice, then thanks, but I originally brought my site up to you because I figured you'd be interested in it and would like to learn from it.
You're very selfish about this, and I don't understand why. I generally don't mind you being here, and would rather not be rid of you, but would appreciate it if you didn't make things difficult for yourself.
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Post by Vendaval Este on Jan 31, 2011 0:26:48 GMT
Fuck's sake dude.
Making friends is not a lot of effort, you for some reason made it out to be a big deal. If you couldn't connect on a "basic, yet alone social" level, I don't see how you'd even last this long. I think you've taken far too many things to heart when you shouldn't have, and furthermore, I simply cannot wrap my head around why you think this site seemingly revolves around you. If you were really not interested in the topic of it, you didn't have to stay, because complaining that the site has nothing for you is no good.
I would now like for this thread to be back to what it was originally about, and Jesus fucking Christ with the entire notion of this thing expanding so it covers some more well-known content, god forbid you simply hit up Wikipedia to get info on what's being discussed.
I'm not mad at you much, but it has annoyed with how selfish you've been and I simply can't work round it.
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Post by fokkusu on Jan 31, 2011 6:39:53 GMT
I personally feel that the site content should stay what the title says it is: Forgotten junk. Adding art films and well-known films, even in juxtaposition, would make the site cease to be about obscure low-budget cinema and bringing it to light. Passing references to better/more popular films within reviews, like briefly comparing Alien to Roots Search, sounds okay though. This site is special to me because it covers only junky stuff almost no one remembers, and it would be nice if it stayed that way. It's your call though.
I don't stand behind some of the stuff Idorado has posted, but I don't think he deserves the harsh treatment he's gotten here. I've noticed a lot of people here being pretty damn rude to him. I think he lost his patience with his first comment in this thread. He can get a bit strange or a little self-centered at times, but seriously, I've seen people giving him a lot of flak over the tiniest things or his writing/art. Is it really necessary, for example, for Krieg to tell him "you need writing lessons as well as art lessons?" Or posting anatomical diagrams on his art thread with no text? Would it KILL some people to give constructive criticism instead of not-so-cleverly-disguised insults? You want people to gravitate towards this forum, not repel them.
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Post by Vendaval Este on Jan 31, 2011 7:27:44 GMT
I've chosen to ban Kreig despite attempts to cope with him but I find he's generally unpleasant and went against the rules. I feel like I should have intervened sooner, but with how busy I've been with other things, yeah. It quite annoys me how Invid says "there's a problem on the forums", I don't understand why there has to be fights on an online forum about obscure movies and animation, and this is not what I wanted in a forum at all.
I want to reiterate to all but that there will be aboslutely NO political or religious talk, and criticism that's not very constructive won't be tolerated too highly as well, though I feel like I'm late on that.
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Post by invidninja92 on Jan 31, 2011 17:26:09 GMT
I admit while I do like the idea of expansion, I personally agree with Fokkusu that keeping the website plain and simple might just be the best option because of her reasons given. Not to mention myself being busy with college and other matters means that to juggle articles about obscure trash, animation as well as arthouse would for me become possibly a bit too much. Certainly I would not mind mentioning the odd arthouse film on occassion in a review, but only if it is well obscure enough so that we think it should get more attention. That's my two cents.
Lastly, James I apologise profusely as a friend and fellow writer if these past few weeks on the website have been irritating you greatly due to actions which I may have been involved in with the forums. Either way, it's time to get this show back on track.
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Post by Vendaval Este on Jan 31, 2011 17:32:48 GMT
I agree, though like I said, at an uncertain point, I would like to write further on film. Though, that might be for a solo project, much, much later in my life, with contributions from others, who knows. Forgotten Junk will be staying as it is for the meantime, and that meantime should fortunately be a good few years yet.
A few things on the forums have annoyed me, yes, though I feel like I didn't really intervene sooner, as I thought they might resolve themselves... somehow. It's really not how I wanted this place to go, but I really didn't want to pay much attention given how much I was dealing with things in my own life at the moment, as well as a brief stint of depression (I wouldn't really wouldn't call it depression, but it was pretty much a case of a deep, shitty feeling).
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Post by zombi1978 on Jan 31, 2011 18:40:37 GMT
For the time I was not online around here, also because of family concerns, I recognized that this forum lost a serious level of niveau. So, I sincerely hope this will put an end to the latest mutual bitching that no one really gives a real advantage. But now: Let's get back to business, meine Damen und Herren. I offer you my experiences with Photoshop, Manga Studio and several other programs AND even more important: I can offer you access to a wide recognition in Austria, Nothern Switzerland and Germany by in-depth translations of your articles. Years before Forgotten Junk was even created I signed up in a forum dedicated to the movie censorship in Germany and around the world. Maybe some of you know the site I mean ( www.schnittberichte.com/ , www.movie-censorship.com/ ). At this point I must say that translators like Google and etc. are still not very successful in giving an exact and grammatical correct 1:1 translations of English textes for the German speaking audience. Think about it.  |
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Post by Zach of Manime on Feb 2, 2011 3:00:09 GMT
Just create a sister site to this one that covers art-house cinema that is linked to this one, "family" of sites. Then you can have your cake and eat it, too.
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Post by loadrunner81 on Feb 5, 2011 11:34:17 GMT
It has just occured to me that I am considering, at an uncertain point in the future, expanding Forgotten Junk and almost changing it completely. What I have in mind, is a site that is on the topic of both art house cinema and trash, with very little of the inbetween; two extremes, juxstaposed with no middleground (basically, little talk on mainstream releases). I am also considering bringing theory to the site, but mainly, I want a grander appreciation of cinema as art, with a section breaking down the aesthetics of a film through its promotional art and its cinematography, as well as weekly selections of screenshots. This includes animation as well, we can never forget that. Thoughts on this? Sounds like it could work. Go for it. |
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Post by Vendaval Este on Mar 26, 2011 11:41:43 GMT
I still want to really go for this...
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Post by invidninja92 on Mar 26, 2011 20:19:38 GMT
I still want to really go for this... Again, I am not hugely fond of the idea as I explained before. If anything, Zach's opinion sums it up for me. |
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Post by zombi1978 on Mar 27, 2011 16:27:43 GMT
I still want to really go for this... So what exactly do you want to do? Appreciating a bigger group is not going to come along by just widen the topics. In my eyes Zach's idea is really the only opportunity left. |
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Post by Vendaval Este on Mar 27, 2011 16:43:19 GMT
It won't really be happening so I wouldn't worry.
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Post by zombi1978 on Mar 27, 2011 17:15:15 GMT
Sorry, but do you mean his idea about sister sites would not happen?
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